I have a different view. The Church consider the books of both Old Testament and New Testament as sacred, inspired, and canonical.

well, lets just say you are all freakin’ closet queen and kings!! accept the fact that even boys have their soft side even tho they are straight,, and also, to all people who are referring to the bible.. sheesh,, dont be posers,, go to church please,, and you will know that “THE OLD TESTAMENT IS MEANT FOR THE ISRAELITES!!!! AND SINCE MOSES DIED, THATS WHAT THEY USED,,, BUT SINCE JESUS CHRIST WAS BORN,,WITH THE HELP OF HIS DISCIPLES, THE NEW TESTAMENT WAS IMPLEMENTED!!! ” READ THE BIBLE, DO NOT CLAIM THAT YOU KNOW IT ALL!!! AND BY THE WAY, IM A LESBIAN,,FULL PLEDGE AND PROUD,, HOW CAN I DETERMINE WHO I AM IF IM STILL A FETUS!!! AND CAN A NEWBORN DECIDE WHAT GENDER HE/SHE MUST PICK!! THATS OBVIOUSLY SILLY AND IGNORANCE!! AND TO ADD,, GO AHEAD, SEND US ALL TO JAIL!! FOR YOU REP.ABANTE ONLY WANT FURTHER SOURCE OF INCOME,,HOW MUCH IS YOUR FINE AGAIN?? PHP100+K? THAT IS ABSOLUTELY ABSURD!! NOT ALL LBGT PEOPLE ARE RICH, YOU WOULD MOST LIKELY MAKE THEM POORER THAN POOR,,AND YOU MR. REPRESANTIVE HAVE ONE CORRUPT MIND!! I WONDER,,MAYBE YOUR SAME-SEX LOVER HAS RESENTED YOU!! THOSE PEOPLE WHO SIDES ON THIS WILL MOST LIKELY GO TO HELL! READ THE BIBLE PIPZ AND YOU’LL ALL BE ENLIGHTENED THAT GOD DOESNT REALLY CARE ABOUT GENDER!! I’LL SEND YOU A POSTCARD WITH YOU ON HELL MR.REPRESENTATIVE,,AND BY THE WAY,,ME AND MY PARTNER ARE GOING TO BE MARRIED AND WE DONT CARE WHAT IT TAKES,,WE WOULD SURELY MAKE IT HAPPEN!! FYI!!!!!

God does not hate gay people.
He has compassion for each and every one of us.

What He hates is the lifestyle of the homosexuals.
Because, first of all, God gave us freewill, meaning we can have the ability to choose, to decide and and to live our lives on our own.
And homosexuality and the lifestyle that it comes with is an immoral lifestyle that is not right in the eyesight of God and man.

@ Twin-Skies

“If that is what the passages regarding Sodom and Gomorrah really mean, then why are so many people so dead-set on asserting it speaks of God’s hate for gays?”

Well, I honestly don’t know. I can only speak for myself at the very least, and guess why people popularly understood Gen 19:1-38 as such at best. I, for one, had long understood that the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed because of people’s homosexual acts. I grew up holding on to the traditional view as it was the interpretation I learned (religion class, Sunday school, church, tv programs, articles/magazines, home, friends, etc.). Every time I would encounter the passage, I was inclined to understand it the way I was taught. Let’s say, even before I read the text, I already had a conditioned interpretation in mind. It’s like saying that I was unconsciously reading my mind into the text.

Twin-Skies, I suggest you try to read Genesis 19:1-38 again. It doesn’t speak of ‘God’s hate for gays.’ Our God is a God of love, not of hate. Let’s suppose that the traditional view is the right interpretation, you’ll read that the people of Sodom were punished not because they were gay; instead the city was destroyed because of their act.

God’s love is perfect, as He is, and doesn’t discriminate. I believe we have an INCLUSIVE GOD, so it doesn’t matter whether a person is male, female, or gay. Peace!

Genesis 9:22 – Ham, the father of Canaan, saw his father’s nakedness, and he told his two brothers outside about it. (It says that Ham was Canaan’s father)

Genesis 9:24-25 – When Noah woke up from his drunkenness and learned what his youngest son had done to him, he said: “Cursed be Caanan! The lowest of slaves shall he be to his brothers.” (With careful reading, it appears that Canaan was Noah’s youngest son)

-from a thoughtful reader of the Writings

The traditional interpretation of Genesis 19:1-38 asserts that the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed because of homosexual intercourse, however, a careful analysis of this account doesn’t in any way suggest such rendering. An exegetical, scholarly, critical, and even a literary reading of that passage indicates that the destruction of these two ancient cities is a result of the people’s mistreatment of strangers in their midst, which was very evident in their attempt to gang-rape Lot’s visitors. Thus, the two cities were punished for their act of social oppression and disregard for the inviolable conventions of hospitality in antiquity.

For more explanation, try reading the critical apparatus, also called scholarly comments/notes/annotations, in the New Interpreter’s Study Bible, Harper Collins Study Bible, and New Oxford Annotated Bible. The editors and contributors of these three study bibles are of diverse religions, traditions, academic backgrounds, and life experiences.

It’s weird, because i think i already said what you just said. Is that a sign that you’re drawing blanks and don’t know how to defend yourself anymore? My goodness, all your entries just before the last one are so long and detailed, why stop now?

It’s fun, ain’t it? Being proven wrong and can’t think of a comeback.

“Hateful, Narrow-minded and bigoted jackass whose mind has long been cemented in your own religious prejudice and dogma.”

Good assessment of me dum-dum. You really are as stupid as i think you are.

Because if you read my entries, it shows that i don’t hate you, I’m just telling you the truth while trying to get in your nerves (which looks like I’m doing a sweet sweet job off by the way).

Narrow-minded? Monks and Amish people are narrow-minded. I’m just standing up for what’s morally right.

But hey, i’ll give you bigoted, i am somewhat that. You know why, because I won’t just sit down and watch this God-given world, let alone my beautiful country be INFESTED by pathetic, disgusting, inconsiderate and self-centered primates (let’s call homosexuals primates, since YOU already compared them to bonobos) that think they’re being discriminated and picked on while in fact, they’re the ones discriminating themselves and picking on their own kind by living the lifestyle they live and flaunting it.

I mean, don’t get me wrong, I respect gay people, i honestly think that some of them are actually REALLY good in their own fields, i just really really despise their lifestyle.

You though, my stupid friend (which sounds like someone from dumb and dumber or dude, wheres my car), just showed EVERYONE (and i mean everyone, coz i just asked everyone i know to read this blog just so i can show them how i practically cut you into pieces, put you back together and and cut you to pieces again just for the fun of it) that you are lower than low, i mean if there’s someone lower than mediocre, that’s where you’re at. You’re LITERALLY, what they call scum.

Because your anwers alone have proven to me and anybody else reading this blog that you are a hateful, narrow-minded, and bigoted jackass whose mind has long been cemented in your own religious prejudice prejudice and dogma.

For me to try to reason with you using data and would be like trying to talk to a dinner table.

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Yes, being a homosexual is “unnatural,” and you’re right, dolphins and bonobos do engage in homosexual behavior. But seriously, you’re going to compare yourselves to animals? Have some pride man (or woman, or gay, or faggot, whatever floats your boat). Animals have instincts, they don’t have feelings, they don’t think, they don’t assess, they have instincts, and innate or natural impulse, inclination or tendency.

We, on the other hand, as humans, have the capacity to think, we have the ability to distinguish. So if you compare homosexuality and the lifestyle that goes with it with animal instincts, you simply degrade the people living the lifestyle by suggesting that they didn’t think and they didn’t assess the situation that led them to homosexuality by giving in to the environment they’re in and inclining to the tendencies that they’re offered.
I mean, i practically lived in an all-girl environment, I’m the only boy in our family, and all my cousins in my dad’s side are all girls. But did i become gay, hell no. Because it’s a choice. Not an instinct. It’s a freaking choice. And we ALL have choices. The only funny thing is, that i know a lot of homosexuals that are good, in all aspects. But being gay just shows that they lack discipline and will-power to stick to the right thing, instead choose the immoral lifestyle that the good God himself didn’t like.

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Let’s not get ahead of ourselves, the passages you showed talk about a whole different topic. Let’s stay in point my friend, we’re talking about the Bill filed by Congressman Abante criminalizing same-sex marriage and the homosexual lifestyle.
Don’t change the topic man.
You’re trying too hard to know these stuff bro, don’t stress yourself out. trying to defend the homosexuals is a lost cause already, because they themselves dig their own graves by living the life they life.

And oh yeah, I’m not an angry troll. In fact, once you get to know me (which i really hope that you won’t), you’ll see that I’m actually a very happy person.

And I’m not trying to add legitimacy to my argument, because I know what I’m saying is right and true. You, though, my pathetic friend, are trying too hard to prove me wrong (which you won’t), showing me and proving to all the readers here that you’re some low-life, trying hard freak that can’t admit that he (or she, or shim, or he-she) is a weak, arrogant person that won’t give in even though you know that you’re already proven wrong.

And I’m not trying to add insulting middle names to people, I’m also not trying to label them. But, for the sake of all that’s good, we all know that Danton “Ugly Fag” Remoto REALLY is ugly, i mean, he’s REALLY ugly.
You know what, maybe that’s why he chose to be gay, because he’s so ugly he couldn’t get any girls, so he just decided to be gay and join all the ugly faggots t\out there.

And lastly, for those freaks that are threatening to hurt the good congressman. I’D REALLY LIKE TO SEE YOU TRY