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		<title>Comment on was rizal gay? by Dimasalang</title>
		<link>http://fullman.com.ph/2006/05/29/was-rizal-gay/#comment-2342</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 13:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[is he gya? well I don&#039;t really care. He did a lot of good to our country and that is the thing that COUNTS. But in a way I find it cute (dare i say it) his bromance with his friends like from all over the world. (bromance? urgh been reading too much fanfiction lately and fandoms are confusing me). Anyway i made my point :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is he gya? well I don&#8217;t really care. He did a lot of good to our country and that is the thing that COUNTS. But in a way I find it cute (dare i say it) his bromance with his friends like from all over the world. (bromance? urgh been reading too much fanfiction lately and fandoms are confusing me). Anyway i made my point <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on An open letter to Filipino gays, bisexuals and transgenders by fullman</title>
		<link>http://fullman.com.ph/2012/01/28/openletterhiv/#comment-2341</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 08:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re challenging me to be heterosexual? Sure, under one condition. Just like you, I have my own beliefs, and I believe that my sexuality is valid and legitimate. So I&#039;d take your challenge if and only if you can be me - a gay man who has a healthy outlook towards sex, who enjoys male-to-male sex, and who realized that he likes men just because he likes men. If you can&#039;t imagine yourself doing that, then voila, you&#039;d realize how ridiculous it is to believe that you or any religion can change something intrinsic among us. 

About your condom issue, we have evidence to show that majority of men who have sex with men do not use condoms bec condoms are not available. You may have beliefs contrary to that, but i&#039;d side with evidence. If you think that abstinence and monogamy are the only solutions, sure, you&#039;re free to believe so. You might want to check how things work with priests, but then you might realize that well, even abstinence fails among priests.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re challenging me to be heterosexual? Sure, under one condition. Just like you, I have my own beliefs, and I believe that my sexuality is valid and legitimate. So I&#8217;d take your challenge if and only if you can be me &#8211; a gay man who has a healthy outlook towards sex, who enjoys male-to-male sex, and who realized that he likes men just because he likes men. If you can&#8217;t imagine yourself doing that, then voila, you&#8217;d realize how ridiculous it is to believe that you or any religion can change something intrinsic among us. </p>
<p>About your condom issue, we have evidence to show that majority of men who have sex with men do not use condoms bec condoms are not available. You may have beliefs contrary to that, but i&#8217;d side with evidence. If you think that abstinence and monogamy are the only solutions, sure, you&#8217;re free to believe so. You might want to check how things work with priests, but then you might realize that well, even abstinence fails among priests.</p>
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		<title>Comment on An open letter to Filipino gays, bisexuals and transgenders by Albert</title>
		<link>http://fullman.com.ph/2012/01/28/openletterhiv/#comment-2340</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Albert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 07:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@fullman

I still hold fast in my belief that condoms do not work. Abstinence and monogamy is sufficient to work in and of itself. When people choose not to practice it, the fault is on the person and not the method per se. You should also ask yourself why, despite the availability of information on HIV/AIDS on the web and the relatively cheap price of condom that you can purchase in a convenience store, is the statistics continuing to shoot up. Apparently, something isn&#039;t working right. 

And since the primary mode of transmission of HIV/AIDS in the LGBT population is through sexual contact, what makes you think that by promoting condom use and hence the sexual act that the incidence of HIV/AIDS will decline. To put it very bluntly, to totally stop the rising incidence of HIV/AIDS among LGBT people, every single one of them must STOP having sex. 

You might argue that this is almost impossible to accomplish in the real world and that it sounds more theoretical than practical. That&#039;s why I personally believe that for anyone who does not want to go through this suffering must in himself learn to abstain from sex, educate himself, redefine one&#039;s view on human sexuality as God intended it to be, and practice fidelity (among heterosexual couples only of course).

Are you up for the challenge?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@fullman</p>
<p>I still hold fast in my belief that condoms do not work. Abstinence and monogamy is sufficient to work in and of itself. When people choose not to practice it, the fault is on the person and not the method per se. You should also ask yourself why, despite the availability of information on HIV/AIDS on the web and the relatively cheap price of condom that you can purchase in a convenience store, is the statistics continuing to shoot up. Apparently, something isn&#8217;t working right. </p>
<p>And since the primary mode of transmission of HIV/AIDS in the LGBT population is through sexual contact, what makes you think that by promoting condom use and hence the sexual act that the incidence of HIV/AIDS will decline. To put it very bluntly, to totally stop the rising incidence of HIV/AIDS among LGBT people, every single one of them must STOP having sex. </p>
<p>You might argue that this is almost impossible to accomplish in the real world and that it sounds more theoretical than practical. That&#8217;s why I personally believe that for anyone who does not want to go through this suffering must in himself learn to abstain from sex, educate himself, redefine one&#8217;s view on human sexuality as God intended it to be, and practice fidelity (among heterosexual couples only of course).</p>
<p>Are you up for the challenge?</p>
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		<title>Comment on An open letter to Filipino gays, bisexuals and transgenders by maninisid</title>
		<link>http://fullman.com.ph/2012/01/28/openletterhiv/#comment-2339</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 04:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My issue about the rising numbers of HIV/AIDS related deaths among our friends and in the community is that we do not discuss AIDS as the cause of death with those who are most affected by it. I wonder how we can ever surpass this. I believe that the more we are silent about the unfortunate and heartbreaking loss around us, the higher the probability that it will spread. 

But among friends, we still wait for those directly affected such as lovers, parents, and siblings to open to us about it. I just wish that they&#039;ll be more open about their pain.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My issue about the rising numbers of HIV/AIDS related deaths among our friends and in the community is that we do not discuss AIDS as the cause of death with those who are most affected by it. I wonder how we can ever surpass this. I believe that the more we are silent about the unfortunate and heartbreaking loss around us, the higher the probability that it will spread. </p>
<p>But among friends, we still wait for those directly affected such as lovers, parents, and siblings to open to us about it. I just wish that they&#8217;ll be more open about their pain.</p>
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		<title>Comment on An open letter to Filipino gays, bisexuals and transgenders by fullman</title>
		<link>http://fullman.com.ph/2012/01/28/openletterhiv/#comment-2338</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2012 18:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Albert. I note that you&#039;ve skirted my remark about the need to be cautious and faithful in quoting &#039;scientific&#039; studies, and I hope that my appeal would be considered. I note, too, that you opted to abandon your earlier claim that condoms do not work. ;-)

Abstinence and monogamy would work if people would practice them consistently. That&#039;s the inherent weakness of both abstinence and monogamy - and you must admit that even in priesthood, a vocation founded on abstinence, 100% compliance is not possible. Hence, all these sex scandals involving priests. Assuming that for the sake of debate we could disregard the sex negative premises of this proposal, why, then, assume that LGBTs could do better?

The family planning policy of the GMA administration was based on abstinence. Did it work? Clearly not, since Our population is nearing 1999, and if it is not working as a family planning option, why privilege it as a strategy to combat HIV?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Albert. I note that you&#8217;ve skirted my remark about the need to be cautious and faithful in quoting &#8216;scientific&#8217; studies, and I hope that my appeal would be considered. I note, too, that you opted to abandon your earlier claim that condoms do not work. <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Abstinence and monogamy would work if people would practice them consistently. That&#8217;s the inherent weakness of both abstinence and monogamy &#8211; and you must admit that even in priesthood, a vocation founded on abstinence, 100% compliance is not possible. Hence, all these sex scandals involving priests. Assuming that for the sake of debate we could disregard the sex negative premises of this proposal, why, then, assume that LGBTs could do better?</p>
<p>The family planning policy of the GMA administration was based on abstinence. Did it work? Clearly not, since Our population is nearing 1999, and if it is not working as a family planning option, why privilege it as a strategy to combat HIV?</p>
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		<title>Comment on An open letter to Filipino gays, bisexuals and transgenders by Albert</title>
		<link>http://fullman.com.ph/2012/01/28/openletterhiv/#comment-2337</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Albert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2012 14:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@fullman

Thanks for the reply. I just want to ask why you said that abstinence and monogamy alone don&#039;t work and can you cite me evidence to support your claim. In the context of HIV/AIDS prevention, of all the methods available out there, abstinence when taken seriously makes HIV/AIDS virtually irrelevant. An man who abstain from sex and practice chastity in the truest sense of that word has nothing to fear about HIV/AIDS or any STDs for that matter. It simply is irrelevant to him given that he is also well informed that HIV can also be acquired through other means outside of sex such as IV drug use, transfusion of infected blood, etc.

My question now is - why do LGBT people in general look down on chastity and abstinence? Does the LGBT community feel somehow alienated from the Gospel message of purity of heart?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@fullman</p>
<p>Thanks for the reply. I just want to ask why you said that abstinence and monogamy alone don&#8217;t work and can you cite me evidence to support your claim. In the context of HIV/AIDS prevention, of all the methods available out there, abstinence when taken seriously makes HIV/AIDS virtually irrelevant. An man who abstain from sex and practice chastity in the truest sense of that word has nothing to fear about HIV/AIDS or any STDs for that matter. It simply is irrelevant to him given that he is also well informed that HIV can also be acquired through other means outside of sex such as IV drug use, transfusion of infected blood, etc.</p>
<p>My question now is &#8211; why do LGBT people in general look down on chastity and abstinence? Does the LGBT community feel somehow alienated from the Gospel message of purity of heart?</p>
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		<title>Comment on An open letter to Filipino gays, bisexuals and transgenders by fullman</title>
		<link>http://fullman.com.ph/2012/01/28/openletterhiv/#comment-2336</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fullman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2012 17:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But Jeff, your example illustrates self-esteem issues, and so framing it according to faith might actually be limiting. Actually, your proposals ease out faith (&#039;casual sex is not a form of rebellion...&#039;), hence it&#039;s actually negating faith. 

you see, my concern about integrating faith is this: where do we draw the line between faith as part of a self-esteem concern and faith as a tool of religion? in a stigmatized situation, it&#039;s quite easy to conflate both, and that can be dangerous. 

(and also, i&#039;d stop here. my next post would be about LGBTs and faith. so, erm, pak!)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But Jeff, your example illustrates self-esteem issues, and so framing it according to faith might actually be limiting. Actually, your proposals ease out faith (&#8216;casual sex is not a form of rebellion&#8230;&#8217;), hence it&#8217;s actually negating faith. </p>
<p>you see, my concern about integrating faith is this: where do we draw the line between faith as part of a self-esteem concern and faith as a tool of religion? in a stigmatized situation, it&#8217;s quite easy to conflate both, and that can be dangerous. </p>
<p>(and also, i&#8217;d stop here. my next post would be about LGBTs and faith. so, erm, pak!)</p>
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		<title>Comment on An open letter to Filipino gays, bisexuals and transgenders by Jeffry</title>
		<link>http://fullman.com.ph/2012/01/28/openletterhiv/#comment-2335</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeffry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2012 16:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It should still be holistic because otherwise the feeling of rebellion - and while I am no expert in the field of counseling - I can assume, could extend to suicidal tendencies, say by not using condoms in one of his encounters. In the case of the rebelling young gay man, what do you think would be a better way to address his problem: (a) address the issue by saying that he should use condoms every time he has a sexual encounter, (b) address the issue of his rebellion against God that will calm him down and refrain from looking at his casual sexual encounters not as a form of rebellion but as a healthy and positive form of activity (I don&#039;t know, I am starting not to believe that casual sex is the normative way to communicate among gay men - but this is not the point), or (c) both?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It should still be holistic because otherwise the feeling of rebellion &#8211; and while I am no expert in the field of counseling &#8211; I can assume, could extend to suicidal tendencies, say by not using condoms in one of his encounters. In the case of the rebelling young gay man, what do you think would be a better way to address his problem: (a) address the issue by saying that he should use condoms every time he has a sexual encounter, (b) address the issue of his rebellion against God that will calm him down and refrain from looking at his casual sexual encounters not as a form of rebellion but as a healthy and positive form of activity (I don&#8217;t know, I am starting not to believe that casual sex is the normative way to communicate among gay men &#8211; but this is not the point), or (c) both?</p>
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		<title>Comment on An open letter to Filipino gays, bisexuals and transgenders by fullman</title>
		<link>http://fullman.com.ph/2012/01/28/openletterhiv/#comment-2334</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fullman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2012 16:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for clarifying. Sabi mo kasi fusion...

This is exactly where it&#039;s tricky, Jeff. How do you exactly combine sex positive messages, religion, and HIV, without making stigmatizing judgements about, say, &#039;casual&#039; sex? Kaya i&#039;d rather we stick to the evidence and not equate risky sex with casual sex.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for clarifying. Sabi mo kasi fusion&#8230;</p>
<p>This is exactly where it&#8217;s tricky, Jeff. How do you exactly combine sex positive messages, religion, and HIV, without making stigmatizing judgements about, say, &#8216;casual&#8217; sex? Kaya i&#8217;d rather we stick to the evidence and not equate risky sex with casual sex.</p>
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		<title>Comment on An open letter to Filipino gays, bisexuals and transgenders by Jeffry</title>
		<link>http://fullman.com.ph/2012/01/28/openletterhiv/#comment-2333</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeffry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2012 15:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am not saying that we should conduct a blanket inclusion given that we have different beliefs (or we do not subscribe to any belief at all), but we should provide space in the response wherein we can talk about sexuality and religion - from prevention to counseling, to care and support of MSMLHIV &amp; TGLHIV - particularly to those who need such space to comprehend things and to be enlightened. I recently met a young gay man who says that his casual sexual engagements is a form of rebellion against God because he could not contain his struggle, of fully accepting his sexuality. I feel that suggesting that he throws out faith or his religious beliefs out of the window is not an appropriate advise, he being raised in that particular religion for all his life. I&#039;m thinking if we can come up with messages that marry sex positivity with religion or faith, while addressing HIV at the same time, we can address these kinds of concerns.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not saying that we should conduct a blanket inclusion given that we have different beliefs (or we do not subscribe to any belief at all), but we should provide space in the response wherein we can talk about sexuality and religion &#8211; from prevention to counseling, to care and support of MSMLHIV &amp; TGLHIV &#8211; particularly to those who need such space to comprehend things and to be enlightened. I recently met a young gay man who says that his casual sexual engagements is a form of rebellion against God because he could not contain his struggle, of fully accepting his sexuality. I feel that suggesting that he throws out faith or his religious beliefs out of the window is not an appropriate advise, he being raised in that particular religion for all his life. I&#8217;m thinking if we can come up with messages that marry sex positivity with religion or faith, while addressing HIV at the same time, we can address these kinds of concerns.</p>
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